2D classification- blank classes

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ubjath01
2D classification- blank classes

Hi,

1. I am new to cisTEM- I was wondering if anyone has any information on why for a 2D classification job I get blank images for 2D classes from iteration 1 onwards (see attached)?

2. Am I correct to say that if you import a 'package' from relion, the star file does not need to have the correct links to particles- as cisTEM works on the order of particles in the large particle  stack instead (i.e line 327 would refer to slice 327 in the particle stack etc)?

Cheers,

Joe

timgrant
Hi Joe,

Hi Joe,

Yes, when you import a package it just reads the first line of the star file and uses that info for the first particle in the stack etc.

What are your defocus values?  In the Assets->Refnement package, when you click on your imported refinement package and look at the imported defocus values, are they weird? E.g. are they all 0.0, or all very similar?

Cheers,

Tim

ubjath01
2D classification- blank classes

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your quick reply.

Defocus, defocus angle and phase shift looks ooks fairly normal for phase plate data... see below for first 20 particles.

Clearly something is wrong as there is lttile change in the parameters from round1 to round 20. Also if I am right that OCC is the class membership in the .par files, then it appears that essentially no classification has occured.

Cheers,

Joe

ROUND1 (classification_input_par_1.par)

C           PSI   THETA     PHI       SHX       SHY     MAG  FILM      DF1      DF2  ANGAST  PSHIFT     OCC      LogP      SIGMA   SCORE  CHANGE
      1    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      2    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      3    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      4    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      5    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      6    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      7    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      8    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
      9    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     10    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     11    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     12    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     13    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     14    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     15    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     16    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     17    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     18    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     19    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00
     20    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    10.0000    0.00    0.00

ROUND 20 (classification_input_par_20.par)

C           PSI   THETA     PHI       SHX       SHY     MAG  FILM      DF1      DF2  ANGAST  PSHIFT     OCC      LogP      SIGMA   SCORE  CHANGE
      1    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      2    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      3    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      4    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      5    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      6    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      7    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      8    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
      9    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
     10    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
     11    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
     12    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    77.1605    0.00    0.00
     13    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    77.1605    0.00    0.00
     14    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    77.1605    0.00    0.00
     15    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
     16    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
     17    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0    77.1605    0.00    0.00
     18    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
     19    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00
     20    0.00    0.00    0.00      0.00      0.00       0     0   4687.5   4083.9   24.16    1.49  100.00         0   100.0000    0.00    0.00

 

niko
Please check that all your

Please check that all your parameters, including pixel size and mask size/particle diameter, are set correctly.

ubjath01
Found the problem

Hi Tim,

I've identified the problem- a symptom of me not paying enough attention- I realise now that it is the mask RADIUS which is required in cisTEM rather than the mask DIAMETER as in relion. The classification is running fine now with a mask not bigger than the box!

Thanks for your help,

Joe

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